tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post1247065754874248468..comments2024-03-25T22:45:57.560+00:00Comments on Transalpine Redemptorists at home: Charity in the Chat RoomAgapitushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13605989610215366446noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-58102076924194370002010-11-04T18:49:41.392+00:002010-11-04T18:49:41.392+00:00Amen to what you said, Father!
This is my first t...Amen to what you said, Father!<br /><br />This is my first time commenting on your blog. I'm happy that you and your fellow Redemptorists have 'come Home' to full communion with the Holy Father.<br /><br />I was also happy to see the pictures of the community at the Mass in Bellahouston Park during the Papal visit last month, too! What a wonderful experience it must have been for all of you!<br /><br />I greet you from 'across the pond' in the USA!<br /><br />BarbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-35841191102212841172010-11-01T20:17:16.121+00:002010-11-01T20:17:16.121+00:00\\So Jack's point is that "the flesh"...\\So Jack's point is that "the flesh" and "the world" (such as the blog dynamics I mentioned above) are sufficient for much of the nastiness we see. So the psychological and material effects of the Fall do enough work that demons don't have to do any heavy-lifting. That sounds right and I think Anne would agree. Anne's point is that any time we give in to the effects of the Fall, we are effectively (if temporarily and in ignorance) "siding" with the demons. So Anne isn't saying here that demons manipulate us like hapless puppets, just that we always take one side or the other at the end of the day. I'm sure Jack would agree to Anne's point as well. \\<br /><br />Scott, you have expressed more exactly what I was trying to say.<br /><br />Anne, I'm sure that we will agree on at least 90% of things.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01133668737743486061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-43594502163158579302010-10-30T11:43:19.892+01:002010-10-30T11:43:19.892+01:00Spoken like a new convert to conciliarism! Hopeful...Spoken like a new convert to conciliarism! Hopefully, you will not it time be following the example of Rifan and start cavorting with naked dancing girls. Ah, what variety and divirsity is in store for you in the new religion! No doubt, your Scotch masters have suggested you let go of the old stuff a little and join the world.Olivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-78185797891181279622010-10-24T21:29:41.950+01:002010-10-24T21:29:41.950+01:00Dear Rev. Fr. Michael Mary, F.SS.R.
I have been vi...Dear Rev. Fr. Michael Mary, F.SS.R.<br />I have been victim of defamation myself so I can understand how you felt in those sad days.<br />---<br />Proverbs 10:20<br />The tongue of the righteous is choice silver, but the heart of the wicked is of little value.<br />---<br />Yours<br />A.B.St. Jude Pray For Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13465759748129417203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-40861139658252100972010-10-17T17:16:18.385+01:002010-10-17T17:16:18.385+01:00Beautifully said!!!! Is it alright to post this on...Beautifully said!!!! Is it alright to post this on my blog and my facebook? <br /><br />God bless,<br />CherylCherylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17783786616306138851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-15318849416429017502010-10-17T16:44:24.946+01:002010-10-17T16:44:24.946+01:00Bravo Scott! Well said.
Deo Gratias.
A fraternal...Bravo Scott! Well said.<br /><br />Deo Gratias.<br /><br />A fraternal embrace to you both, Jack and Scott. You are both already in my prayers.<br /><br />Laudatur Iesus Christi,<br /><br />AnneAnnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05342713528373741011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-34226272758486418072010-10-17T15:47:02.119+01:002010-10-17T15:47:02.119+01:00The little "disagreement" between Anne a...The little "disagreement" between Anne and Jack is a perfect illustration of how things can quickly go wrong in the blogosphere. In their core beliefs, I'm sure Anne and Jack actually agree, but thanks to the dynamics of the blogspace (anonymity, short comments that can easily be misunderstood, the absence of trust-building non-verbal communication) and original sin (pride and the darkening of the intellect) they can quickly become entrenched in a position and talk past each other.<br /><br />So Jack's point is that "the flesh" and "the world" (such as the blog dynamics I mentioned above) are sufficient for much of the nastiness we see. So the psychological and material effects of the Fall do enough work that demons don't have to do any heavy-lifting. That sounds right and I think Anne would agree. Anne's point is that any time we give in to the effects of the Fall, we are effectively (if temporarily and in ignorance) "siding" with the demons. So Anne isn't saying here that demons manipulate us like hapless puppets, just that we always take one side or the other at the end of the day. I'm sure Jack would agree to Anne's point as well. <br /><br />Obviously Jack and Anne haven't erupted into nastiness, but hopefully their little disagreement can remind us that many online disputes begin with parties who actually fundamentally agree on the matter at hand!Scott Woltzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13112547391607836919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-2311784507690440182010-10-17T13:37:37.957+01:002010-10-17T13:37:37.957+01:00Jack, with all due respect, you say 'basic hum...Jack, with all due respect, you say 'basic human nastiness' do you think this originates from The Lord Jesus Christ? from the Children of Light? From the Heart of Christ? Think clearly as to where nastiness originates in all its gastly forms? (I dont mean correcting someone either) We cannot serve two Masters as we have seen in the warning of Judas Iscariot, (the deviant Apostle, who started off with good, sound and Holy intentions but did not end that way). Either we listen to the Devil (aka our fallen nature or we strive to acquire Grace, Fullness of God, Beatific Vision, Love our Neighbour and pray for our enemies at all costs whatever pain it puts us through). I don't know where your middle ground comes from?<br /><br /><br />Laudatur Iesus Christi!<br /><br />AnneAnnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05342713528373741011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-6750985807823642902010-10-16T12:53:21.634+01:002010-10-16T12:53:21.634+01:00To Anonymous 15 Oct
"If I tell a person direc...To Anonymous 15 Oct<br />"If I tell a person directly what I know or think I do not sin. Rather it is a charity to do so. Is that right?<br />In the case of a priest who has lived a highly visible sexually immoral life. What to do? Tell then directly. Tell my bishop?<br />Sometimes the easier way is to take verbal pot shots hoping it will get to the bishop. What if the person can do great harm to me. What should I do?"<br /><br />REPLY:<br /><br />Fraternal correction is the private admonition of a neighbour for the purpose of the amendment of sins and dangers of sins which proceeds from charity. If you are talking about Fraternal Correction, then yes it is charity to do so and sometimes we are obliged to do it. However, there are distinctions.<br /><br />Fraternal correction concerns things done out of ignorance or negligence and not things done out of bad will which require Paternal correction. Paternal correcton is an act of justice of a father for the individual and common good. Judicial correction is an act of justice of an exacting judge mainly for the common good.<br /> <br />One ought to remember that Fraternal correction must be made in private, and this must be done with meekness and charity. The purpose of the correction is not correction for the sake of correction but rather to help our neighbour. As our Lord says , “But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother. And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.” [St. Mt. 18:15-17]<br /><br />With regards to the priest in question, remember that he is your superior. Speaking to him privately with humility, charity and reverence is the right thing to do. If he doesn’t listen to you, follow Our Lord’s advice and go with 2 or 3 other people who are aware of his faults. If that does not work one should inform the Bishop as the scandal involved regards the common good. <br /><br />Taking pot shots is always the wrong thing to do. You would be committing detraction, you would be severely damaging the priest’s reputation with those who don’t know about it and you would be doing great harm to the common good and to the church in general. And all this wouldn’t help the priest concerned. But a private and humble rebuke done with charity might cause him to have some remorse and amend his life.<br /><br />True Fraternal correction always requires courage. One has to put one’s feelings aside and speak mildly. Harsh words will make things worse. Pray for strength and guidance before you act.<br /><br />Flos EremiTransalpine Redemptoristshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17394447129800154630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-13695293527490193432010-10-16T06:07:23.698+01:002010-10-16T06:07:23.698+01:00You can only educate those who are willing to get ...You can only educate those who are willing to get enlightened.It should be remembered that it is the choice of the receiver to accept what is sent to him and what hedoes not accept automatically returns to the senderDarryl Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15477950248797390592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-49167673084153187392010-10-16T00:17:39.339+01:002010-10-16T00:17:39.339+01:00With respect, Anne, I think the Devil gets too muc...With respect, Anne, I think the Devil gets too much credit for what is really just basic human nastiness.<br /><br />One prominent Orthodox bishop referred to such sites (alas, they exist in the Orthodox world, too) as "ecclesiastical pornography" that can destroy souls participating in them.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01133668737743486061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-4876368976347527292010-10-15T20:39:32.442+01:002010-10-15T20:39:32.442+01:00This is an excellent post. I suggest that these &#...This is an excellent post. I suggest that these 'individuals' check themselves out with a fully appointed excorcist from the Holy Roman Catholic Church and have their orifices excorcised, it is clear to see that the Devil has truely entered them. There are some excellent and famous excorcists like Gabriele Amorth, Father Fortea, Father Bramonte to name a few, I am sure they will be more than happy to snuff out Satan's smoke that is in within them. <br /><br />God Bless you Father Michael and your Community. We love you and cherish you. <br /><br />Laudatur Iesus Christi!<br /><br />AnneAnnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05342713528373741011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-48350900872934361262010-10-15T19:40:29.674+01:002010-10-15T19:40:29.674+01:00Thank you, Fr. Michael Mary, for the reminder whic...Thank you, Fr. Michael Mary, for the reminder which I have taken to heart!<br /><br />AnnaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-45344435452564325632010-10-15T12:33:26.042+01:002010-10-15T12:33:26.042+01:00If I tell a person directly what I know or think I...If I tell a person directly what I know or think I do not sin. Rather it is a charity to do so. Is that right?<br />In the case of a priest who has lived a highly visible sexually immoral life. What to do? Tell then directly. Tell my bishop?<br />Sometimes the easier way is to take verbal pot shots hoping it will get to the bishop. What if the person can do great harm to me. What should I do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-7409659690687417442010-10-15T06:09:26.596+01:002010-10-15T06:09:26.596+01:00Humility, holiness, and common sense. These words ...Humility, holiness, and common sense. These words describe the atmosphere that envelopes the fortunate reader who enters this wonderful blog.<br /><br />Thank you and God bless!<br /><br />Davidwheat4paradisehttp://wheat4paradise.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-73192758613536920932010-10-15T04:50:18.725+01:002010-10-15T04:50:18.725+01:00Thank you. Hope this will be widely read!
ScottThank you. Hope this will be widely read!<br />ScottScott Woltzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13112547391607836919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-50394731571743462192010-10-14T18:18:14.834+01:002010-10-14T18:18:14.834+01:00Excellent! Well said.
BrianExcellent! Well said. <br /><br />BrianBrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521646408593188270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-22437390599556575232010-10-14T17:25:14.405+01:002010-10-14T17:25:14.405+01:00Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have commented...Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have commented before on this most serious problem and have refused to look at "ultra conservative sites" because of the hateful speech. For too long, we had to endure such uncharitableness from liberal catholics (some of them nuns). We who love the Catholic Church and Pope should also love her members.<br /><br />V. DoubleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6770248786883931686.post-10448871303530372402010-10-14T16:53:39.520+01:002010-10-14T16:53:39.520+01:00Thank you so much for this lesson in love of Almig...Thank you so much for this lesson in love of Almighty G-D above all for His own sake and love of neighbor for G-DS sake!<br />Wonderful!!!Cruise the Groovenoreply@blogger.com